Is the world's oil running out fast?

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More a case of rapidly increasing consumption IMO, which cannot be matched by production.

I don't consider it doom and gloom btw, more a practical realistic assessment of the world we live in.

By this time next year we should know one way or the other as far as production/consumption are concerned.

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"The number of major new oil fields discovered around the world fell to zero for the first time in 2003, despite an obvious increase in technological expertise."

"The figure I'd use is around $182 a barrel. We need to price oil realistically to control its demand. That is because global production is peaking."

And Dr Campbell has a dire warning: "If the real figures were to come out there would be panic on the stock markets, in the end that would suit no one."

His work on oil reserves has long suggested that many official oil data are either flawed estimates or at worst downright lies.
Scandals like the 23% of 'lost' reserves at Royal Dutch Shell have helped to boost interest in his work.

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Is the world's oil running out fast?

By Adam Porter
at the Peak Oil conference in Berlin



How long will the oil keep flowing?

If you think oil prices are high at $40 a barrel then wait till they are four times that much.

How will you pay to run your car? How will you get the children to school? How will you heat your house? How much will transported food go up in price?

How will we pay for plastics, metals, rubber, cheap flights, Simpson's DVDs, 3G phones and everlasting economic growth?

The basic answer is, we won't.

This is the message from the Association for the Study of Peak Oil (ASPO).

The group of oil executives, geologists, investment bankers, academics and others has been warning the world of high oil prices, and the ensuing fallout, for some years now.

The end of cheap oil

It includes a diverse range of oil industry insiders.

People like Ali Bakhtiari, head of strategic planning at Iran's National Oil Company (NOIC), Dr Colin Campbell, a former executive vice president of Total-Fina, and Matthew Simmons, an energy investment banker and adviser to the controversial Bush-Cheney energy plan.

They are united by one idea, that global oil production is about to peak, which in turn will signal the permanent end of cheap oil.

And they warn that this is the foundation of the current rise in oil prices.

Who hurts when prices explode?

"Oil is far too cheap at the moment," says Mr Simmons.

"The figure I'd use is around $182 a barrel. We need to price oil realistically to control its demand. That is because global production is peaking."


Large new oil fields are ever more difficult to find
"If we price oil correctly," Mr Simmons says, "it could give us time to find bridge fuels, fuels to fill the gap between an oil economy and a renewable economy. But I don't see that happening."

The adherents of the peak oil theory warn the decline of world oil putput will force oil prices higher for good, and that the knock on effects could be catastrophic.

"In my opinion, unfortunately, there will be no linear change," says Iran's Ali Bakhtiari. "There will only be sudden explosive change."

"The people who will be least affected will be the super poor, who already have no access to energy, and the super rich who do not care if oil is $100 a barrel."

"It is everyone who is in the middle who will be hurt the most," says Mr Bakhtiari. "When the crisis comes there will be enormous changes."

Oil rationing?


Dr Campbell says endless growth is not possible

Much of ASPO's predictions stem from the calculations of Dr Campbell.

His work on oil reserves has long suggested that many official oil data are either flawed estimates or at worst downright lies.

Scandals like the 23% of 'lost' reserves at Royal Dutch Shell have helped to boost interest in his work.

False reserves threaten the security of energy supply, just as do bombs under pipelines.

Dr Campbell's conclusion: oil production and consumption should be regulated by governments.

"Many reserve figures are highly questionable," says Dr Campbell.

"Many great oil fields are increasingly old and inefficient. But I don't think oil is easy to produce with a sniper behind every palm tree."

"The way to increase energy security is to reduce demand," he says.

'Difficult times'

At ASPO's recent conference in Berlin, companies such as BP and Exxon and men such as Fatih Birol, chief economist of the International Energy Agency, began to talk to the proponents of the peak oil theory.

Whilst they may not agree with Dr Campbell's theories, their attendance highlighted ASPO's emerging importance in the oil debate.

In public, Mr Birol denied that supply would not be able to meet rising demand, especially from the buoyant economies in the USA, China and India.

But after his speech he seemed to change his tune.

"For the time being there is no spare capacity. But we expect demand to increase by the fourth quarter (of the year) by three million barrels a day."

He pinned his hopes for an increase in production squarely on troubled Saudi Arabia.

"If Saudi does not increase supply by 3 million barrels a day by the end of the year we will face, how can I say this, it will be very difficult. We will have difficult times. They must invest."

Can Saudi deliver?

But even Mr Birol admitted that Saudi production was "about flat".

Three million extra barrels a day would mean a huge 30% leap in output in just a few months.


North Sea oil production is in decline

When BBC News Online followed up by asking if this giant increase in production was actually possible rather than simply a desire he refused to answer. "You are from the press? This is not for you. This is not for the press."

Asking other delegates - admittedly supporters of the peak oil theory - whether such a steep increase was feasible, the answers were unamiguous: "absolutely out of the question," "completely impossible," and "3 million barrels - never, not even 300,000."

One delegate laughed so hard he had to support himself on a table.

Some recent figures tend to back up ASPO's outlook.

North Sea production is declining at an increasing rate, having peaked in 1999.

Not at the predicted flat rate of decline of 7%, but gradually accelerating from 7% to 8.5% to 11%.

And the number of major new oil fields discovered around the world fell to zero for the first time in 2003, despite an obvious increase in technological expertise.

"We need transparency with the figures," says Dr Campbell.

"This avoids profiteering from shortages, the collapse of poor countries and it will stimulate alternatives."

"Consumer countries need to be able to audit fields, but at the same time 'flat earth' economists who believe in endless growth need to change their ideas."

And Dr Campbell has a dire warning: "If the real figures were to come out there would be panic on the stock markets, in the end that would suit no one."


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3777413.stm

[This message was edited by eek on June 07, 2004 at 07:06 AM.]
 

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It does make me wonder if a future assessment of energy resources was behind the Iraq invasion.

Iraq being the second biggest pot of oil around, and this being a pragmatic world that we live in.

I cant see any other logic behind that huge invasion army and occupation force, plus how many other personnel/contractors are there? 50-100,000?

Anyway.
The next 12 months will be interesting.
 

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Some addenda to my thoughts in this thread.

PeakOil is one of the more famous of the Malthusian School of natural resource studies, the lot who ignore basic science, economics etc. in all of their assesments.

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Who hurts when prices explode?

"Oil is far too cheap at the moment," says Mr Simmons.

"The figure I'd use is around $182 a barrel. We need to price oil realistically to control its demand. That is because global production is peaking."
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Like any other commodity, oil's price begins at marginal production costs and ends at consumer demand -- to artifically inflate it would be to cause false scarcity, a policy which has proven disastrous time and time again in the history of government intervention in markets. Disregarding this for a moment, another very important fact to bear in mind is that some of the alternative sources of oil -- shale oil, sand oil, so-called "white oil," etc. -- are not currently economically viable because of the cost of extraction. If the cost of oil were to dramatically rise (and nowhere near $182 per barrel) the cost of producing oil from these inarguably vast sources relative to more traditional means would drop dramatically, and then they would be tapped -- and so the demand curve would subside due to the newly-accessible supplies. This is not pollyanna; this is simple economics. When the only thing keeping a given source from being exploited is not technology but cost, a rise in the cost of the competing source will make the more expensive source more nearly economically viable.

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False reserves threaten the security of energy supply, just as do bombs under pipelines.

Dr Campbell's conclusion: oil production and consumption should be regulated by governments.
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Yet most of the false reserves and other data tampering Peak Oil laments is done not by private companies, but by governments. The Shell incident only adds fuel to the fire, but the big stink on questionable reserves has nothing to do with private companies -- the reserves in question are figures from OPEC, which did in all fairness to the Malthusians make a mysterious major jump several years ago, out of the blue.

Still, typical insanity -- find a problem created by the state, advocate greater state control as its solution. See also Higgs' Crisis and Leviathan.

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"Many great oil fields are increasingly old and inefficient. But I don't think oil is easy to produce with a sniper behind every palm tree."
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And many oil sources which were supposed to have dried up decades ago are still going strong. And some long-dead ones have started pumping again.

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"The way to increase energy security is to reduce demand," he says.
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Demand is a matter of utility, cost vs. benefit, and means. It is almost impossible to manipulate demand for any commodity on a long-term basis, because market forces will always screw up the state plan -- the only way to do what is being proposed is for governments of the world to literally take control of the oil industry from the top to the bottom, in every nation on earth. Anyone who believes that such an endeavour would be anything other than a catastrophic, civilisation-ending failure needs to be smacked around a bit before breakfast every day until he comes to his senses.


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One thing is for sure.

Those Malthoosians aint pissing about any more.

Morocco June 2004, made a major non-nato ally by the US.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3776413.stm
Libya supplies US with oil again june 2004.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3777561.stm
France wants Algerian debt swap(...for oil contracts.)june 2004
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3783023.stm

The race is on.

Get those malthoosians before they get you.
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People have been saying we will run out of oil since the 30's. they were all wrong then and are now. in the 70's they said we had 30 billion barrels of oil in the US - since then we have pumped over 70 billion barrels in the US and now they say we have "only" 20 billion left. my advice to the doom and gloomers is to find something else to worry about.
 

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The Saudi's have increased oil production by 2 million barrels a day. So much for the doom and gloom.
 

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